Chris Dilger

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Choosing a quiet fan with jet physics

Working draft. The physics below is real, and the fan figures come from manufacturers’ catalogues and independent reviews (ETM Testmagazin, mybest, Expert Reviews, Trusted Reviews, TechGearLab). None of it is my own measurement yet, and the long-range numbers are model extrapolations, not data. I would rather publish the method early than polish it in private.

I want a fan that moves air across a room without sounding like one. The marketing numbers (CFM, dB at some unspecified distance) do not say much about how it will feel three metres away. A cleaner way to think about it is to treat the fan outlet as a turbulent jet and ask what physics sets how far it carries.

A short physics lesson: the equations air obeys

Everything below rests on one set of equations, so it is worth meeting them properly. Air in a room moves slowly compared with the speed of sound, so we can treat it as incompressible, and then its motion is governed by the Navier–Stokes equations:

∂u/∂t + (u·∇)u = −∇p/ρ + ν∇²u + f,    ∇·u = 0

Read it as Newton’s second law for a small parcel of air, per unit mass. On the left is how the parcel’s velocity u changes: partly with time, and partly because it is carried into a region where the flow is different (the (u·∇)u term). On the right are the forces that cause that change: pressure differences (−∇p/ρ), viscous friction (ν∇²u), and any body force f, such as a fan pushing or cold air sinking. The second equation says no air is created or destroyed: whatever flows into a region flows out.

Which of those terms actually matters? Scale everything by a typical speed U and size L, and the equation becomes

∂u*/∂t* + (u*·∇)u = −∇p + (1/Re)·∇²u

so the only thing that decides the kind of flow is a single number in front of the viscous term.

Here is Re for the flows that matter in our house:

Reynolds numbers around the house

101001e+31e+4 fanAC jethallwaydoorwayunder door Re: fan = 83333Re: AC jet = 18667Re: hallway = 36667Re: doorway = 17400Re: under door = 240 Re
Fan: 5 m/s from a 25 cm outlet. AC jet: 3.5 m/s from an 8 cm louvre slot. Hallway: 0.5 m/s drift down a 1.1 m wide hall. Doorway: 0.3 m/s through a 0.87 m door. Under door: 0.3 m/s through a 12 mm undercut. Pipe flow turns turbulent near Re ≈ 2,000, so almost every flow in a house is far into the turbulent range. The exception is air squeezing under a closed door: at Re ≈ 240 it is laminar, viscosity dominates, and the gap behaves like a narrow pipe. That is why a door undercut is a poor return path, and why the 3D simulation further down has to model doors properly.

At high Re you might think viscosity simply drops out. It does not, quite. Turbulence passes energy from big eddies to smaller ones (the energy cascade) until the eddies are so small that viscosity can finally turn their motion into heat.

The practical consequence is lovely: once a jet is turbulent, its spreading is set by its own eddies, not by the air’s viscosity, so the jet’s shape stops depending on Re at all. Here is Re for a 12 cm outlet at various speeds, just to show how quickly we leave the laminar world:

Jet Reynolds number for a 12 cm outlet

1e+31e+4 1 m/s2 m/s3 m/s5 m/s8 m/s Re: 1 m/s = 8000Re: 2 m/s = 16000Re: 3 m/s = 24000Re: 5 m/s = 40000Re: 8 m/s = 64000 Re
Laminar pipe flow breaks down near Re ≈ 2,000. Even a gentle 1 m/s outlet is far past it.

One more force matters in a house with an air conditioner: cold air is heavier than warm air.

Archimedes number for air 8 °C colder than the room, over 1 m

0.010.11 0.25 m/s0.5 m/s1 m/s2 m/s3 m/s5 m/s Ar: 0.25 m/s = 4.19Ar: 0.5 m/s = 1.05Ar: 1 m/s = 0.26Ar: 2 m/s = 0.07Ar: 3 m/s = 0.03Ar: 5 m/s = 0.01 Ar
Fast air goes where it is aimed. Below about 0.5 m/s buoyancy is as strong as inertia, so cold air leaving the split system drops to the floor before it reaches the hall unless something keeps it moving. That is the job of the fan.

Momentum wins, viscosity barely matters

For a turbulent round jet, the far field is self-similar and independent of Re. The centreline speed falls as

u_c(x) ≈ B·d·U / x, with B ≈ 6.2

so what matters is the product of outlet diameter and outlet speed, i.e. the momentum flux.

Centreline speed vs distance (12 cm outlet)

exit 3 m/sexit 5 m/sexit 8 m/s
02468 12345678 6 d exit 3 m/s: 0.5, 3exit 3 m/s: 0.75, 2.976exit 3 m/s: 1, 2.232exit 3 m/s: 1.5, 1.488exit 3 m/s: 2, 1.116exit 3 m/s: 3, 0.744exit 3 m/s: 4, 0.558exit 3 m/s: 5, 0.446exit 3 m/s: 6, 0.372exit 3 m/s: 8, 0.279 exit 5 m/s: 0.5, 5exit 5 m/s: 0.75, 4.96exit 5 m/s: 1, 3.72exit 5 m/s: 1.5, 2.48exit 5 m/s: 2, 1.86exit 5 m/s: 3, 1.24exit 5 m/s: 4, 0.93exit 5 m/s: 5, 0.744exit 5 m/s: 6, 0.62exit 5 m/s: 8, 0.465 exit 8 m/s: 0.5, 8exit 8 m/s: 0.75, 7.936exit 8 m/s: 1, 5.952exit 8 m/s: 1.5, 3.968exit 8 m/s: 2, 2.976exit 8 m/s: 3, 1.984exit 8 m/s: 4, 1.488exit 8 m/s: 5, 1.19exit 8 m/s: 6, 0.992exit 8 m/s: 8, 0.744 distance from fan (m) air speed (m/s)
Beyond about six diameters the jet decays as 1/x. A 5 m/s outlet is already down to ≈0.6 m/s at 6 m.

The trade that makes a fan quiet

Thrust (momentum flux) is T = ρ·(π/4)·d²·U². Hold it fixed and the throw, which scales as d·U, does not change with diameter at all: a bigger, slower outlet delivers the same punch down the room. Noise, however, rises steeply with speed. Using a rough U⁶ scaling for broadband fan and jet noise as a stand-in:

Same thrust (0.5 N), different outlet diameters

exit speed (m/s)relative noise, U^6, 12 cm = 1
0.010.1110 1015202530 exit speed (m/s): 8, 9.1exit speed (m/s): 10, 7.28exit speed (m/s): 12, 6.07exit speed (m/s): 16, 4.55exit speed (m/s): 20, 3.64exit speed (m/s): 25, 2.91exit speed (m/s): 30, 2.43 relative noise, U^6, 12 cm = 1: 8, 11.391relative noise, U^6, 12 cm = 1: 10, 2.986relative noise, U^6, 12 cm = 1: 12, 1relative noise, U^6, 12 cm = 1: 16, 0.178relative noise, U^6, 12 cm = 1: 20, 0.047relative noise, U^6, 12 cm = 1: 25, 0.012relative noise, U^6, 12 cm = 1: 30, 0.004 outlet diameter (cm) value
Doubling the diameter from 12 cm to 25 cm drops the required exit speed by half and the relative noise by roughly two orders of magnitude, for the same far-field push. The exponent is a rule of thumb; real blade and motor noise add tonal components on top.

Here is the same idea as something you can play with. The particle jet is the far-field model above, with the spreading rate of a real turbulent round jet. Hold the thrust constant and drag the diameter: the yellow line (where the breeze drops to a just-noticeable 0.5 m/s) barely moves, while the noise figure falls away.

Try it: outlet size vs outlet speed

Throw to 0.5 m/s
Thrust
Airflow
Reynolds number
Noise vs reference
Dashed outline: reference outlet (12 cm at 5 m/s). Particles move at the local mean speed, slowed down 2x. Tick "hold thrust constant" and drag the diameter to see the same push delivered by a bigger, slower, quieter outlet.

So the shopping heuristic is: maximise outlet area for the thrust you need, then check the motor and blades are not adding their own whine.

The real question: getting the cold air down the hall

The free-jet picture says what a fan can do in open air. Our actual problem is a house: one split system on the dining room’s north wall, and bedrooms down a hallway that the cold air never seems to reach. So I took the floor plan from the digital twin of the house, with its walls, doorways, kitchen joinery and the default furniture layout, and ran a 2D airflow simulation on it, right here in the page.

Live: the split system and a Dreo fan, on the actual floor plan

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A 2D slice at head height, drawn from the house model with its default furniture. Colour is air speed (dark is still, white is 1.5 m/s or more); streaks follow the flow. Pick a scenario, or choose "Place your own fan" and drag on the plan: press where the fan stands, drag the way it points. The clock is simulated time.

What it shows, averaged over the second half of 45 simulated seconds (AC at 3.5 m/s, fan at 4.5 m/s):

WhereAC onlyDreo through the kitchen gapDreo around the retreat
Dining0.45 m/s0.76 m/s0.62 m/s
Living0.13 m/s0.52 m/s0.38 m/s
Retreat0.005 m/s0.76 m/s0.79 m/s
Hall0.003 m/s0.71 m/s0.46 m/s
Bedroomsabout 0about 0.01about 0.01

Three things jump out.

  1. On its own, the split system’s air stays in the dining and living room. The jet hits the floor-to-ceiling obstacles (fridge, island, sofa) and curls back on itself. The hall is effectively dead air.
  2. One fan in the right place changes that completely. Pointed south through the gap east of the kitchen, it sets up a loop: down through the gap, west along the hall, back up through the retreat into the dining room, where the AC tops it up again. The retreat route works too, but more of its push is spent in the retreat itself.
  3. Bedrooms are dead ends. Even with every door open, almost nothing flows through a bedroom, because there is nowhere for the air to come out. A second fan in the hall aimed straight into the Bed 2 doorway lifts that room’s average from 0.01 to 0.05 m/s, but it is a local swirl of hall air at the door rather than a supply of cooled air, and it partly fights the first fan. Getting conditioned air into a bedroom needs a through path (a door undercut or transfer grille plus a fan pushing in) or a head in the room. Try it yourself: choose “Place your own fan”, then press in the hall and drag towards a bedroom door.

This is a 2D, depth-averaged slice, so it is honest about where air can go but not about the ceiling: a real split-system jet hugs the ceiling (the Coandă effect), and cold air sinks as it slows. Tall things like the fridge block most of the slice; low things like beds and the dining table only add drag. The solver is a lattice Boltzmann method with a Smagorinsky turbulence model, running in a Web Worker in your browser. The return air the split system draws in from the ceiling is modelled as a gentle sink around the head.

Into the bedrooms: the same house in 3D

The 2D slice can’t answer the question I actually care about: how much of the cooled air ends up in a bedroom. A doorway is a 3D thing. Air can come in over the top and leave along the floor, or the other way round, and a split system’s jet runs along the ceiling. So here is the same house again, this time as a full 3D simulation: every wall, door head, the fridge and its bulkhead, the furniture, and a 2.59 m ceiling, with the AC as a real slot of air on the north wall of the dining room.

Live in 3D: getting the split system's air into the bedrooms

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Section through the door of
Colour 0 to 1.5 m/s0 to 50% AC air
A 3D simulation of the whole house from its model, with the default furniture as solid blocks. The plan is a horizontal cut at the chosen height; the strip below is a vertical cut through the chosen bedroom door (dashed line on the plan), so you can see air crossing the doorway under the 2.1 m door head. "AC air" is the share of the air that has come through the split system since the start: the number that says whether cooled air is actually getting into a room. Room figures are averaged over the occupied zone, 0.1 to 1.8 m above the floor. To place your own fans (up to three), press where a fan stands and drag the way it points; press the button again to clear them. The clock is simulated time.

The top view is a plan cut through the occupied zone. Below it is a vertical section through the bedroom door you pick, so you can watch air cross the doorway at different heights. Colour by “AC air” to see where air that has passed through the split system has got to. Each room card shows its share, its average speed, and how many litres a second go through its door.

The solver is a D3Q19 lattice Boltzmann model with the same Smagorinsky turbulence closure, on about 31,000 air cells of 22 cm. A phone gets a coarser grid of 26 cm. Fans are actuator discs. A closed door is a solid leaf with a 12 mm undercut. The AC air is tracked as a dye, and can optionally be treated as 8 °C colder than the room so it sinks.

Two minutes of simulated time, AC at 300 L/s with the louvre angled 15° down, cold air on, fans at 4.5 m/s from a 25 cm outlet 0.9 m off the floor. The figures are the share of air in the occupied zone (0.1 to 1.8 m) that has been through the AC:

RoomAC onlyHall fan into Bed 2Two fans (kitchen gap + hall)Hall fan, doors shut
Dining43%42%36%44%
Living48%48%43%49%
Hall19%19%27%21%
Bed 24.7%9.4%18.7%0.2%
Bed 11.5%1.7%4.8%0.3%
Bed 31.4%0.7%1.8%0.1%
Bed 41.9%1.3%1.6%0.1%
Bed 2 doorway59 L/s each way674 L/s671 L/sabout 1 L/s

What I take from it:

  1. The AC jet does hug the ceiling. With the louvre level, the fastest air 2 to 4 m out is in the top cell, at 2.5 m. Angle the louvre 15° down and the cold air starts to drop by about 4 m out. This is the Coandă effect, which the 2D slice could not show.

  2. With the AC alone, cold air pours into the bedrooms along the floor. Each open doorway trades about 50 L/s: cool hall air flows in low and warm room air flows out high. It is a slow, buoyancy-driven exchange, and two minutes in the bedrooms are still under 2% AC air.

  3. One hall fan aimed at a doorway doubles that room’s share. It pushes about 670 L/s through the middle of the doorway, and the air returns along the floor and under the door head. But it can only move the hall air it has, and the hall is only 19% AC air.

  4. A second fan at the kitchen gap doubles it again. Pushing the dining room’s air down the hall first makes the hall fan’s air colder. Bed 2 goes from 4.7% to 18.7% in two minutes. The other bedrooms barely change, so this is a strategy for one room at a time.

  5. Shut the door and the fan does nothing for that room. A 12 mm undercut passes about 1 L/s and there is no path back out, so the room is sealed off from the AC.

Honest limits. The grid is coarse: there are only two cells above a door head, and a fan disc is a single cell, so its total push is right but the near field is crude. The ceiling is modelled as slip, because at this resolution a no-slip ceiling would not let the jet attach. “AC air” counts anything that has passed through the AC since the start, with no heat gained from the rooms, so it is a measure of mixing, not temperature. It is a model to rank options against each other, not to predict the thermostat.

Which fan? Separating data from extrapolation

I started with Dreo’s shortlist and ended up reading every independent fan test I could find: 52 fans, 108 measurement rows. Most are useless for this question, and it is worth being clear about why before looking at any chart.

The other trap is distance. Most reviewers measure air speed at 1 m, which tells you about the outlet, not the throw. Only one tester measured at hallway distance: mybest, at 6.1 m (20 ft), with the strongest reading taken from a grid of 36 points and noise at 1.5 m.

At hallway distance: 6.1 m

Air speed 6.1 m away vs noise, every fan at full power (mybest)

DC motorAC motormotor not stated Pareto frontier
00.511.522.533.5 40455055606570 better: quieter and stronger Dreo CF714S: 2.75 at 54.9 dB · (not sold here) Dreo CF714S (not sold here) Dreo pedestal: 2.46 at 48 dB Dreo pedestal Vornado 660: 2.21 at 52.2 dB · A$195 Vornado 660 A$195 Vornado 7803: 2.44 at 62.5 dB · A$250 Vornado 7803 A$250 Lasko 3300: 2.22 at 64.7 dB Lasko 3300 Vornado Silver Swan: 1.37 at 60.7 dB Vornado Silver Swan Honeywell HT-908: 1.62 at 51.4 dB Honeywell HT-908 Pelonis FS40 DC: 1.64 at 50.1 dB Pelonis FS40 DC Pelonis PFS40: 1.22 at 42.1 dB Pelonis PFS40 Lasko 1827: 1.54 at 60.7 dB Lasko 1827 Lasko tower: 1.19 at 44.7 dB Lasko tower Pelonis box: 1.48 at 64.3 dB Pelonis box noise at 1.5 m (dB) air speed at 6.1 m (m/s)
One tester, one method, one distance, so these points really are comparable. The frontier (dashed) runs through a quiet Pelonis and two Dreo designs; the Vornados and the Lasko deliver similar air at 6 m but are 8 to 10 dB louder doing it. mybest also found DC-motor fans about 10 dB quieter than AC ones overall. Prices are amazon.com.au on 7 October 2026 where the same model is sold here.

This supports what I suspected about the big-brand circulators. A Vornado 7803 at full power gets 2.44 m/s to the far end of a 6 m room and makes 62.5 dB doing it; the Dreo CF714S gets 2.75 m/s for 54.9 dB. Eight decibels is the difference between “fan noise” and “a fan you can sleep next to”. Most of Vornado’s range here uses AC motors (the 460, 560, 630, 633, 660, 683, 7503, 7803); their DC models (533DC, 633DC, 683DC, 5303DC, 6303DC) cost more and were not in this test.

Up close: the quiet envelope at 1 m

At 1 m there is much more data, including every setting of three Dreo circulators (ETM Testmagazin) and spot readings from Expert Reviews. Each line is one fan walking through its speed settings.

Air speed at 1 m vs noise at 1 m, setting by setting

DC motorAC motormotor not stated Pareto frontier
01234567 20253035404550556065 better: quieter and stronger Dreo 513S: 2.2 at 34.4 dBDreo 513S: 2.8 at 35.6 dBDreo 513S: 3.4 at 37.8 dBDreo 513S: 4 at 41 dBDreo 513S: 4.4 at 44.2 dBDreo 513S: 5.2 at 47.5 dBDreo 513S: 5.8 at 50.3 dBDreo 513S: 6.2 at 53.1 dB Dreo 513S Dreo 508S: 0.9 at 32.6 dBDreo 508S: 1.3 at 34.2 dBDreo 508S: 1.8 at 37.4 dBDreo 508S: 2.5 at 40.6 dBDreo 508S: 3.3 at 43.8 dBDreo 508S: 3.5 at 46.6 dBDreo 508S: 3.7 at 50 dBDreo 508S: 4 at 51.3 dBDreo 508S: 4.5 at 52.8 dBDreo 508S: 5 at 58.5 dB Dreo 508S Dreo 502S: 1.5 at 25.3 dBDreo 502S: 2.4 at 27.8 dBDreo 502S: 2.6 at 29.5 dBDreo 502S: 2.8 at 31.7 dBDreo 502S: 3.2 at 34.6 dBDreo 502S: 3.8 at 43.2 dBDreo 502S: 4.4 at 45.3 dBDreo 502S: 4.8 at 48.1 dBDreo 502S: 5.5 at 52.5 dB Dreo 502S Dreo 765S min: 2.2 at 27.8 dB Dreo 765S min 765S setting 12: 5.5 at 54.6 dB 765S setting 12 Meaco Sefte Pro 10: 4.6 at 35.5 dB Meaco Sefte Pro 10 Sefte min: 2.2 at 24.5 dB Sefte min Meaco 1056P: 3.8 at 45.9 dB Meaco 1056P Levoit 42 tower: 3.4 at 54.6 dB Levoit 42 tower Levoit 36: 3.2 at 45.2 dB Levoit 36 Honeywell HT900: 2.7 at 47.5 dB Honeywell HT900 noise at 1 m (dBA) air speed at 1 m (m/s)
Lines: every setting of the Dreo 513S, 508S and 502S (ETM, same lab and method). Dots: Expert Reviews spot readings (phone meter, so allow a few dB). Two different testers, so read differences under about 5 dB as a tie. The surprise is the Meaco Sefte Pro 10 pedestal: 4.6 m/s at 35.5 dBA, which no other fan here matches.

A few things this teaches:

Dreo 513S: noise vs power draw (ETM, measured)

01020304050 510152025 Dreo 513S (ETM): 2.9, 34.4Dreo 513S (ETM): 4.1, 35.6Dreo 513S (ETM): 5.8, 37.8Dreo 513S (ETM): 8, 41Dreo 513S (ETM): 10.8, 44.2Dreo 513S (ETM): 14.6, 47.5Dreo 513S (ETM): 19.3, 50.3Dreo 513S (ETM): 25, 53.1 power (W) noise at 1 m (dBA)
Every speed setting. The low settings (3 to 8 W) stay in the 30s of dBA: bedroom-quiet.

353 vs 512: the two Dreos you can actually buy here

These are the two models sold locally (A$159.99 and A$189.99 on amazon.com.au), and I now own a 512. Annoyingly, neither has any independent measurement, so this part is the jet model on Dreo’s own claims. The 353 has the faster claimed outlet (7.92 vs 7.62 m/s), so it wins right at the fan. Far away, centreline speed scales with outlet speed times outlet diameter, so the bigger 512 should catch up. By how much depends on what you take the outlet diameter to be:

353 vs 512: modelled centreline speed (not measured)

353, rotor estimate512, rotor estimate353, momentum estimate512, momentum estimate
0246 110 distance from fan (m) centreline speed (m/s)
Both estimates agree on the shape: the 353 leads inside about 1.2 to 1.8 m, then the 512 leads. They disagree on the size of the lead at 7 m. A model prediction on manufacturer claims, not a measurement.

A word of caution on models like this: one French review reportedly measured a 765S dropping from 4.8 m/s at 1 m to 0.3 m/s at 7 m, far below what any free-jet formula predicts. Oscillation, aim and room recirculation all eat throw. That is exactly why the hallway needs measuring, and why the house simulation further up matters more than the jet formula.

Prices, and a warning

Delivered in Australia in October 2026, the picture is lopsided. The 353 (A$159.99) and 512 (A$189.99) are sold locally on amazon.com.au. Vornado’s AC circulators are A$150 to A$250 and the DC ones A$200 to A$350. The Dreo models with the best measured data are not sold here at all: a 765S comes to roughly A$400 or more delivered from amazon.com, which was the only store that would ship it, and a positioning-based Dreo “Intelligent Fan” (most likely the 707S) appeared on amazon.com.au at A$389.60, only after I asked Dreo about Australian availability:

Watch out for fake “Dreo Australia” stores. While shopping I found several sites pretending to be Dreo’s Australian store; I reported them and Dreo had some taken down. Dreo’s own brand-protection page warns about the dreo-[country].com pattern, and it lists no official Australian shop. If a site offers Dreo fans in Australian dollars at a discount, assume it is a scam and buy through a marketplace you trust.

Where that leaves me. The measured data favours DC-motor circulators with big rotors run slowly, and on the evidence the Meaco Sefte Pro 10 and the Dreo 7xx family sit on or near the frontier. The two fans I can buy cheaply here (353 and 512) are unmeasured, so the next step is obvious: measure my 512 in the actual hallway, at 1, 3, 5 and 7 m, against a sound meter, and put it on these charts.

What is next

  1. Measure the candidate Dreo’s outlet area and real exit speed with an anemometer.
  2. Replace the placeholder B and the U⁶ rule with measured decay and a dB(A) reading at 1 m, 3 m.
  3. Check the 3D simulation against reality: a cheap thermometer in Bed 2 with one fan, then two.
  4. Put the 704S/714S on the noise chart: measure air speed at 1, 3 and 7 m and dBA per setting, with the meter in the same place for every fan.
  5. Measure air speed in the hall with the AC alone and with the fan in each spot, and put the measurements next to the simulation.